{"id":31974,"date":"2022-04-05T15:00:08","date_gmt":"2022-04-05T15:00:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/caseyfamilyv2.wpengine.com\/jonathan-nez-qanda\/"},"modified":"2026-03-24T23:45:47","modified_gmt":"2026-03-24T23:45:47","slug":"jonathan-nez-preguntas-y-respuestas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.casey.org\/es\/jonathan-nez-qanda\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00bfQu\u00e9 significa la Ley de Bienestar del Ni\u00f1o Ind\u00edgena para la Naci\u00f3n Navajo?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"content-section light fresh-text single wp-block-fresh-text backgrounds-and-margins-aware-block margin-top margin-bottom\">\n <div class=\"container mx-auto px-5\">\n\n \n \n <!-- The CTA is moved up next to the title when in the Head Section style -->\n \n  <div class=\"callout\"><p><!-- wp:heading {\"className\":\"p1\"} --><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading p1\">Q&amp;A with Jonathan Nez, President of the Navajo Nation<a href=\"#footnotes\"><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/h2>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">The U.S. Congress passed the Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA) in 1978 to address the long history of separation of American Indian and Alaska Native (AI\/AN) families, and to protect AI\/AN children and families from further trauma. Its provisions apply to enrolled members of federally recognized tribes in the United States, the largest of which is the Navajo Nation. The Navajo Nation\u2019s territory comprises 27,000 square miles in three states (Arizona, New Mexico, and Utah), and it has 400,000 enrolled members living on the Nation\u2019s lands and around the globe. In this Q&amp;A, Jonathan Nez, president of the Navajo Nation, shares his experience and perspective on ICWA and tribal sovereignty, some of the present challenges related to ICWA implementation, and why full implementation of the law is so important to his tribe\u2019s future.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:heading {\"level\":3,\"className\":\"p3\"} --><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading p3\"><b>How does ICWA reflect the political status of tribes and tribal sovereignty?<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/b><\/h3>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">Indigenous nations in the United States have a unique relationship with the federal government, established through treaties and agreements. For the Navajo Nation, our sovereignty is recognized in the Treaty of 1868. During the westward expansion in the 19th century, Indigenous peoples were taken off their lands, forcibly at times, and put into \u201creservations.\u201d When people use that word, I tell them: Use the word nation instead, because that\u2019s what we are. We are the Navajo Nation, not the Navajo Reservation.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">For example, the Navajo were able to utilize our sovereignty to respond to the COVID-19 pandemic. Our mask mandate was in place for over a year. We locked the Nation down at times during outbreaks. That\u2019s what sovereignty is about \u2014 the ability to govern yourselves and your people. Sovereignty isn\u2019t just about the ability to do for yourself, it is also about the ability to help others. We received a lot of support from all over the world during our outbreak. And when we were in a better place, with lower daily cases, we helped the country of India with homemade masks.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">The relationship we have with the United States government under federal Indian law, including ICWA, protects Indigenous peoples and our way of life. Before ICWA, our children were forcibly taken into boarding schools. Many children ran away from the schools, trying to get home, sometimes in harsh weather. Many of our Navajo students never made it home. The vision of ICWA was to help heal the Nation and other tribes from this difficult time in history by keeping children within their families and tribes. To this day, that healing process continues.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">But as years have gone by, the protections of ICWA and other federal laws have been chipped away. For example, today we are fighting to be able to teach our culture, our tradition, and our <a href=\"https:\/\/discovernavajo.com\/navajo-culture\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span class=\"s1\">Way of Life<\/span><\/a> to our own people in our own school districts. A lot of that culture and tradition is currently taught in our homes. That\u2019s why, when a young person needs to be removed from their family, ICWA says that child should stay within that extended family, within their community, nation, and tribe. The Navajo Nation also prides itself on keeping children within their clan. There\u2019s much <span class=\"s2\"><b><i>k\u2019\u00e9<\/i><\/b> <\/span>(family, relatives) within that clanship.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:heading {\"level\":3,\"className\":\"p3\"} --><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading p3\"><b>What has been your experience with ICWA, as a tribe leader?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">ICWA is overseen by the Navajo Nation Division of Social Services, in partnership with our Department of Justice. We get a lot of inquiries, asking to identify whether certain children throughout the world are Navajo. We currently have active ICWA cases in more than 20 states. It can be challenging when we have to deal with so many different states to advocate for our children.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">We get calls from people across the country wanting to place a Navajo child temporarily into a non-Native household. We are working to have more Navajo foster parents, as we still do not have enough Navajo foster homes. There are still times when a child must be placed somewhere else temporarily. We monitor those children, to make sure that the family has resources to teach that child our Way of Life, and we encourage visitations to occur. But our ultimate goal, and of course ICWA\u2019s focus, is for the child to stay within the Nation.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">Sometimes a temporary placement of a Navajo or other Indigenous child becomes a conflict and the subject of litigation. People\u2019s first reaction is sometimes, \u201cDon\u2019t you want the child to be happy with the family they\u2019ve gotten used to? Isn\u2019t that in the best interest of the child?\u201d There is a lot of debate about that. But the Navajo or Indigenous people know what\u2019s best for their children. If you look at it through our viewpoint, our land, our language, and our Way of Life teaching reflect who we are. We would rather have our children stay with our people, so we can help them be successful into the future.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:heading {\"level\":3,\"className\":\"p3\"} --><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading p3\"><b>How do tribe culture and teachings impact children and families?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">Tribes know what is best for their children. For the Navajo, we want our children to know our history, to know who they are. We are trying to reinstate an educational system that embraces our culture, tradition, and language \u2014 that\u2019s educational sovereignty. We shouldn\u2019t have just one page in our textbook about Indigenous peoples. Our children need to learn about forced relocation during the Long Walk more than 150 years ago. Some of the communities from here to Fort Sumner spat and threw rocks at Navajo people and just wanted them gone. That kind of information should be in textbooks, not to create anger or hate, but to help our children understand who they are and to give them strength to know they can persevere through anything. Some of this information is key to healing a child and healing a Nation. <span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">This education is also an important element of ICWA. Children are not going to get that education if they are away from the Nation, if they\u2019re with a family that doesn\u2019t know Navajo. All that history, that Way of Life, will be taken from them. When they get older, children who are adopted by non-Native families often feel robbed because they didn\u2019t get that teaching. They long to know who they are, and many return to the tribe as adults. They come full circle. And at times, there\u2019s some anger toward their foster or adoptive family for not teaching them. We don\u2019t want that to happen anymore.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">We want those individuals to come back to the <span class=\"s2\"><b><i>h\u00f3zh\u00f3<\/i><\/b><\/span>. In Navajo, <i>h\u00f3zh\u00f3<\/i> means balance, restoration, and healing. When these young children are taken away, they\u2019re out of balance. If they are not taught how to regain that <i>h\u00f3zh\u00f3<\/i>, it\u2019s going to affect them for their entire lifetime.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:heading {\"level\":3,\"className\":\"p3\"} --><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading p3\"><b>What prevents non-Native people from embracing tribes\u2019 cultural gifts and family ties?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">Sometimes it\u2019s hard for others to understand our worldview. Here on the Navajo Nation, our Way of Life teaching, or our worldview, is a lot different from those outside our nation. We want to make sure that our young people know their Way of Life, their culture, tradition, and language. If you give an Indigenous child their culture, tradition, Way of Life teaching, and their language, they are more likely to succeed in this multi-ethnic country that we live in.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">Our priorities are different. For example, 30 percent to 40 percent of our people still don\u2019t have running water or electricity. When we haul water home, the first thing we do is give the water to our animals, and then to our plants, because they sustain life. Next is drinking water, and then whatever is left goes to personal hygiene. Those are our priorities. We need to provide more families running water so families can stay here on the Nation. But in the meantime, a lack of running water should not be a reason to keep a child from their family and community. It might even help that child build resilience, like I did, and encourage that child to be successful later in life.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">Of course, Indian communities are not a utopia. We do have high rates of alcoholism, drug addiction, violence, PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder), and suicide. That is because there is a lot of confusion in our people. We have to negotiate two worlds, and achieve balance, <i>h\u00f3zh\u00f3<\/i>, in two worlds \u2014 the Indigenous world and the non-Indigenous world, which is society today. It\u2019s no wonder our kids question who they are at times.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:heading {\"level\":3,\"className\":\"p3\"} --><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading p3\"><b>What are your hopes for Navajo children in the future?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">We tell our young people, \u201cYou are our future leaders.\u201d Many are already leading us right now. ICWA was intended to keep our young people in their homes, where the water is, where the fire poker is, in our Way of Life teaching. That\u2019s where protection is. Everybody here knows home is the safest place to be. That\u2019s why nobody on the Nation fought our leadership when we told everybody to stay home in lockdown, even though many communities across the country were picketing and disregarding the guidance, saying, \u201cYou\u2019re infringing on our freedoms.\u201d But in our Way of Life teaching, life, and policy, everything originates from the home, the <span class=\"s2\"><b><i>hogan<\/i><\/b><\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p2\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">What we have been through as a Nation has been painful. Some are not ready to forgive after all that hardship. But there are others that are moving forward and healing so the next generation after us can move out of this bondage, or subjugation, that has existed in the United States for so long. We need to change the way people think about ICWA. It\u2019s not about reconstruction. It\u2019s about having a Nation be a Nation, and having our people be proud of their Nation.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n \n \n <!-- conversly to above, we need to not show the CTA here if it's the Head Section style -->\n  <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"qff_disclaimer align wp-block-disclaimer content-section\">\n <div class=\"container mx-auto px-0 md:px-5\">\n <div class=\"qff_disclaimer__wrapper text-salt-box text-xs font-sofiapro border-t-2 border-spring-wood\">\n <p>Casey Family Programs consults with individuals and teams across the country to compile research, experiences, and insights about approaches that can safely reduce the need for foster care and ensure the well-being of children and families. We share this information broadly to help child welfare leaders and their partners tackle similar issues in their own communities. For questions about this resource, or if you have other child welfare information needs, please email <a href=\"mailto:kmresources@casey.org\">kmresources@casey.org<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div id=\"footnotes\" class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div style=\"height:2px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"footnote wp-block-footnote\">\n  <div class=\"container mx-auto px-5 text-3xs text-black-currant\">\n    <p><!-- wp:paragraph {\"className\":\"p1 note\"} --><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1 note\">1 Adapted from an interview with Jonathan Nez, president of the Navajo Nation, on Aug. 11, 2021.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n\n  <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"content-section light fresh-text single wp-block-fresh-text backgrounds-and-margins-aware-block margin-top margin-bottom\">\n <div class=\"container mx-auto 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